May 10, 2009, 10:51 PM // 22:51
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#21
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Ontario,Canada
Guild: 聖光麒麟
Profession: W/
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/notsigned
lol make them untradeable, might as well take away someones obby armour while you are at it
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May 10, 2009, 11:05 PM // 23:05
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#22
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Academy Page
Join Date: Feb 2009
Guild: Not Even Remotely Dorky [NERD]
Profession: Mo/E
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/Notsigned
Commerce aside, people who want the title and dislike PvP shouldn't lose out. Guild Wars already has a nice system of making things available to those who don't PvP with a little extra hard work (i.e. Faction through vanquishing, farming money for keys, etc). Also, it is only PvP-based titles which come with special emotes, it doesn't seem fair to me that BOTH of them should be entirely exclusive to PvPers only, particularly when both titles are account-wide.
If you don't like free keys through predictions, complain about that, but not trading keys. If non-PvPers want to spend ludicrous amounts of money getting the Zaishen title, isn't that our prerogative? It doesn't hurt you, and it supplies revenue to people who prefer to PvP for money instead of farming in PvE.
Last edited by Anastasia Morte; May 10, 2009 at 11:08 PM // 23:08..
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May 11, 2009, 03:27 AM // 03:27
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#23
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Hall Hero
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: E/
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Eh, too late.
Might have been a good idea when the first came out. Too late now.
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May 11, 2009, 04:35 AM // 04:35
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#24
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: El Centro CA
Guild: Lazy Imperius Legionis (LaZy)
Profession: W/P
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/not signed Zkeys make for a good other trade items above 100k like ecto plus it is the PvPers (ecto) :P
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May 11, 2009, 05:06 AM // 05:06
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#25
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Sep 2007
Profession: A/E
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/Notsigned.
I quit PvP long time ago because of elitist pricks. Shouldnt mean I shouldnt get keys anymore because I dont want to deal with a bunch of assholes.
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May 11, 2009, 07:06 AM // 07:06
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#26
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Apr 2008
Guild: [bomb]
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one of the best ideas ever. /signed
That will restore economy a bit.
I do not see this ever implemented since people just care about free money.
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May 11, 2009, 07:26 AM // 07:26
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#27
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Defending Fort Aspenwood
Profession: E/
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/notsigned
Trade is good.
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May 11, 2009, 12:46 PM // 12:46
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#28
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: US
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make them tradeable but not able to count towards the title then (yeah I said it). If you obtain them without trading they count. Titles that are just gold sinks are stupid IMO.
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May 11, 2009, 04:39 PM // 16:39
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#29
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Atra esternà ono thelduin
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Madness Incarnate
Guild: [Duo]
Profession: W/P
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hasnt this been suggested before? this is how z-keys should have come in the first place so that the emote actually has some relevance to a person's pvp prowess instead of everyone just buying them, lol. kinda too late now ;-)
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May 11, 2009, 05:01 PM // 17:01
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#30
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Nothing, tra la la?
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Too late to do anything now.
Just delete all emotes then problem solved.
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May 12, 2009, 12:56 AM // 00:56
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#31
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Aug 2006
Guild: HoVa
Profession: W/N
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/not signed
You don't want the guessing the game to give out free keys is one thing, but banning trading keys is totally another. Someone who want's the title should be able to buy since they need a ton of keys, and someone who doesn't care about the title should be able to sell since they have no use for the key. Stopping trading is bad for both groups, so fail.
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May 12, 2009, 01:18 AM // 01:18
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#32
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Jungle Guide
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Australia, what you want my home address?
Guild: [CAT]
Profession: Mo/
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Really if Zkeys were untradable from the start... no big deal, now? Far too late, not that Anet usually isn't (far too late updating things).
/notsigned
As for all the people saying "lol, might as well make ecto untradable" and similar comments... sure, when Anet starts handing out 20-30+ free ectos per account every month. Seriously wtf?
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May 12, 2009, 01:24 AM // 01:24
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#33
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Above you.
Profession: Mo/W
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lol no..?
If anything, nothing on GW should be untradable, I think zcoins being untradable is a stupid design decision. Something not being tradable messes with the economy.
Instead of heavy bags being at most, what, 50k? They're 50-100e or more? If people could just trade the coins, we wouldn't be in this situation that we're in now. But no, they want one single person to grind their butt off for one single item, and that inflates prices.
All making zkeys untradable would do is make it so only top GvG players are able to get anywhere decent zrank and leave everyone else down in the dirt.
Besides, Anet isn't gonna do this. They get money from people buying accounts for XTH, they change it so nobody gets zkeys, people stop buying accounts. That's not good business, and their bean counters like good business. Those are the guys that control decisions -- it's here to stay.
P.S. +1 to your fail attribute for this thread.
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May 12, 2009, 01:44 AM // 01:44
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#34
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Jul 2007
Guild: Relentless Aggressors [rA]
Profession: R/Mo
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Too late as others have said.
PvPers make money and PvEers get a title.
Everyone is happy!
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May 12, 2009, 07:01 AM // 07:01
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#35
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Sep 2007
Profession: Me/A
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No offense, but it's too late to change them now. Not to mention it would be impossibly hard to get R12 on your own.
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May 13, 2009, 12:30 PM // 12:30
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#36
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Sep 2006
Guild: The Siege Turtles
Profession: R/
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/notsigned
What next remove trade function?
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May 13, 2009, 01:03 PM // 13:03
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#37
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Underworld Spelunker
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo
Guild: Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]
Profession: E/
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People can still trade Flames of Balthazar.
You won't do anything making them untradable.
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May 13, 2009, 01:38 PM // 13:38
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#38
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Italy
Guild: Spirits From Hell [SH]
Profession: E/P
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/notsigned
Now is useless, it would be done like 8 months ago
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